20 DAILY MICCAI Wednesday Women in Science Also, we use counterfactual explanations as explanations that we can give to clinicians to reason about our machine learning models. We work quite a bit on disease progression modeling, population modeling, understanding our image data, and image distributions. In terms of applications, we are working very closely with the Eye Hospital in Tübingen so we work on ophthalmic images a lot. One of the reasons for this is that we have these very close collaborations in place, we have access to the doctors. Doctors are interested in doing research with us. What has been happening in the past few years and is coming to fruition now is that we have worked on several fronts that are really coming to a clinical study state, where we can study the effect of using our models in interaction with the clinicians. I think this is a very important direction for us that we want to continue. We are seeing the first results now. And in the first results, we found that some methods, when we put them into clinicians actually didn't give us any benefit. That's important to know. But we also saw some first results that looked very exciting! I think we will have some results to show soon. Lisa, why do you think doctors cooperate with you? What brings them to you? Well, I think some of the clinicians that we work with have the capacity to do research on the site. They have the time. In Tübingen, we have a very nice situation. We have a very strong hospital and we have a very strong AI research community. I find that the atmosphere is an atmosphere of collaboration. This is probably not unique, but it's a very pleasant way to do research and to interact. Our building is also next to the hospital. So we can go have lunch together or have coffee together. From being so close to doctors, what was the one thing that inspired you most? What did you learn from a doctor that was extremely precious for you? Well, it’s not just one thing. It’s very important for me to understand how they spend their days. So, we organized shadowing hospital visits with the doctor. Myself and the students would follow them around for a day to see how they interact with the patient and how they interact with imaging. This helps us
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